While I'm not sure if it would still be worth migrating, due note that AmigaOS is still under active development on newer (PowerPC) hardware. Now, it's not exactly top of the line stuff - the latest AmigaOS boards are still only at 733mhz, but still, it's out there and kicking (barely anyways).
I've considered buying one of the machines in the past. They're around $750 IIRC. Would be a nice toy to play with. I wish the system was open sourced though. I can imagine the the possible boost in Amiga popularity (not sales, but at least interest and usage) would be a lot higher if it could be ran on commodity x86-64 hardware and was freely available for development.
I can imagine the the possible boost in Amiga popularity (not sales, but at least interest and usage) would be a lot higher if it could be ran on commodity x86-64 hardware and was freely available for development.
Yes but such a thing is vehemently opposed by the Amiga snobs.
Actually, as one of those amiga snobs, I would love to see it run on the x86-64 hardware. AmigaOS ran with less ram and multitasked better than windows does in low memory settings. The problem is that they (the new developers) have a weak minded viewpoint on making money from old amiga users. The make it for dead or a dying hardware platform and fail to embrace the common one. Oh to run AmigaOS on my windows machine is a dream come true. But it willnever happen. Just like running the mac OS X on a stock x86
You can't get Amiga OS as open source. The code was copyrighted and never put into the public domain.
Oh, you are trying to conflate AROS with the actual Amiga operating system. Nice try, but that isn't really quite what AROS is. aros.sourceforge. [slashdot.org]net/
But Amiga is a dead end as far as generating profit goes.
Closest we where was bplan Pegasos with MorphOS.
But creating AmigaOS 4.0 and release the AmigaOne from Eyetech with one OS for each separate platform was just yet another failure of the failed management of Amiga.
I think you can run the same OSes on both machines now, eventually, don't know for sure if all AmigaOnes run MorphOS, but it's too late.
And I think bplan has focused their Efika outside the Amiga market now and the Pegasos is gone.
Having done some research on this throughout the day (obscure OS projects fascinate me), the AROS option looks pretty darned cool IMHO. The new AmigaOS 4 isn't binary compatible with any of the original AmigaOS versions - they run on different processors. As such AmigaOS4 is really just a cloned lookalike that runs old software through emulation.
AROS, from what I've gathered, is essentially the same thing. It's a clone that is source (but not binary) compatible with the original Amiga system. Recompile
>>>As such AmigaOS4 is really just a cloned lookalike that runs old software through emulation.
One could make the same argument about MacOS after they switched from the 68000 to the PowerPCs. (You need an emulator to run the original Mac binaries.)
Or one could conclude that Apple/Commodore had no choice but to switch processors, since the 68000 series had come to a dead end, and not get hung-up about the CPU.
One could make the same argument about MacOS after they switched from the 68000 to the PowerPCs. (You need an emulator to run the original Mac binaries.)
Well, yes, but MacOS X actually took off. So not only does it have the name legally, but it's also heavily developed and popular (and popularity means better app support and such).
AROS vs AmigaOS 4 is a bit different. Though AmigaOS has the rights to the name, it's not developed by the original AmigaOS team, nor has it really taken off in popularity. Both it and AROS are essentially niche little hobbyist projects. Between the two, given that neither really has the upper hand over the other, the legal ri
I think you're splitting hairs. You're trying to claim MacOS is alive and AmigaOS is dead, but that's simply not the case. Commodore went bankrupt, but the Amiga OS managed to survive... continuing on from Amiga OS3.0 to 3.5 to 3.9 and now 4.0
>>>MacOS X actually took off.
Until it was terminated and replaced with NeXT. So if I wanted to be anal like you are, then I could say MacOS is dead. But I won't do that because I think the distinction is trivial and pointless. So if your claim about Amiga
Hyperion does suck, and it will continue to as long as it holds out on making AOS that can run on x86 hardware. I'd run it on my MacBook Pro in a heartbeat.
A good friend of mine owns an Amiga from... well, it's an old one. It's hilarious how the GUI feels snappy and responsive and Windows feels slow as shit in comparison.
I've considered buying one of the machines in the past.
I had an Amiga 500 but turned it in for recycling. If I could have expanded/upgraded it I would have kept it longer.
I can imagine the the possible boost in Amiga popularity (not sales, but at least interest and usage) would be a lot higher if it could be ran on commodity x86-64 hardware and was freely available for development.
If Amiga OS ran on commodity x86 hardware I bet it would sell. I think it's weird, there used to be an expansion board for Ami
While I'm not sure if it would still be worth migrating, due note that AmigaOS is still under active development on newer (PowerPC) hardware. Now, it's not exactly top of the line stuff - the latest AmigaOS boards are still only at 733mhz, but still, it's out there and kicking (barely anyways).
I've considered buying one of the machines in the past. They're around $750 IIRC. Would be a nice toy to play with. I wish the system was open sourced though. I can imagine the the possible boost in Amiga popularity (not sales, but at least interest and usage) would be a lot higher if it could be ran on commodity x86-64 hardware and was freely available for development.
I felt the same way. I figured Amiga should of accepted the linux kernel and made it's OS off of that.
But no, they wanted to follow suit of the companies before it and put out old hardware that was too expensive. Everyone and their grandma has a x86 cpu computer, but no, let's produce a new computer that is expensive for the small group of people we have and never worry about it actually being useful to anyone.
Apparently Amiga is cursed or something.
What good is a ticket to the good life, if you can't find the entrance?
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even used outside of a small hobby base?
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Television. One of my local channels will still have the occasional Guru Meditation at 0 dark hundred.
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While I'm not sure if it would still be worth migrating, due note that AmigaOS is still under active development on newer (PowerPC) hardware. Now, it's not exactly top of the line stuff - the latest AmigaOS boards are still only at 733mhz, but still, it's out there and kicking (barely anyways).
I've considered buying one of the machines in the past. They're around $750 IIRC. Would be a nice toy to play with. I wish the system was open sourced though. I can imagine the the possible boost in Amiga popularity (not sales, but at least interest and usage) would be a lot higher if it could be ran on commodity x86-64 hardware and was freely available for development.
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I can imagine the the possible boost in Amiga popularity (not sales, but at least interest and usage) would be a lot higher if it could be ran on commodity x86-64 hardware and was freely available for development.
Yes but such a thing is vehemently opposed by the Amiga snobs.
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>>>the latest AmigaOS boards are still only at 733mhz
2000 megahertz. Due to be released in August.
As for open source, you can get upto Amiga OS 3.5 in that format and run it on a PC or Mac. Intel or PowerPC.
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You can't get Amiga OS as open source. The code was copyrighted and never put into the public domain.
Oh, you are trying to conflate AROS with the actual Amiga operating system. Nice try, but that isn't really quite what AROS is. aros.sourceforge. [slashdot.org]net/
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Oh I see. It's like that Windows OS project that attempts to clone the functionality (ReactOS), but isn't the actual OS.
I don't think making the OS 4.x is the answer. The company still wants to make money off the Amiga, just like Apple wants to do with Mac.
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But Amiga is a dead end as far as generating profit goes.
Closest we where was bplan Pegasos with MorphOS.
But creating AmigaOS 4.0 and release the AmigaOne from Eyetech with one OS for each separate platform was just yet another failure of the failed management of Amiga.
I think you can run the same OSes on both machines now, eventually, don't know for sure if all AmigaOnes run MorphOS, but it's too late.
And I think bplan has focused their Efika outside the Amiga market now and the Pegasos is gone.
Only chance
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Having done some research on this throughout the day (obscure OS projects fascinate me), the AROS option looks pretty darned cool IMHO. The new AmigaOS 4 isn't binary compatible with any of the original AmigaOS versions - they run on different processors. As such AmigaOS4 is really just a cloned lookalike that runs old software through emulation.
AROS, from what I've gathered, is essentially the same thing. It's a clone that is source (but not binary) compatible with the original Amiga system. Recompile
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>>>As such AmigaOS4 is really just a cloned lookalike that runs old software through emulation.
One could make the same argument about MacOS after they switched from the 68000 to the PowerPCs. (You need an emulator to run the original Mac binaries.)
Or one could conclude that Apple/Commodore had no choice but to switch processors, since the 68000 series had come to a dead end, and not get hung-up about the CPU.
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One could make the same argument about MacOS after they switched from the 68000 to the PowerPCs. (You need an emulator to run the original Mac binaries.)
Well, yes, but MacOS X actually took off. So not only does it have the name legally, but it's also heavily developed and popular (and popularity means better app support and such).
AROS vs AmigaOS 4 is a bit different. Though AmigaOS has the rights to the name, it's not developed by the original AmigaOS team, nor has it really taken off in popularity. Both it and AROS are essentially niche little hobbyist projects. Between the two, given that neither really has the upper hand over the other, the legal ri
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I think you're splitting hairs. You're trying to claim MacOS is alive and AmigaOS is dead, but that's simply not the case. Commodore went bankrupt, but the Amiga OS managed to survive... continuing on from Amiga OS3.0 to 3.5 to 3.9 and now 4.0
>>>MacOS X actually took off.
Until it was terminated and replaced with NeXT. So if I wanted to be anal like you are, then I could say MacOS is dead. But I won't do that because I think the distinction is trivial and pointless. So if your claim about Amiga
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No, you're repeatedly missing my point. AmigaOS is a niche little OS that is from a commercial standpoint *PRACTICALLY* dead.
AmigaOS4 vs AROS are essentially both AmigaOS 3 inspired OS's written by new developers with very little use following outside of a niche community.
MacOS X is also a rewrite, but with a huge user following. There really isn't even another project in this realm to compare to.
Lets just engage in a bit of alternate history: say in 1997 Apple had gone out of business. They sold the Ma
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Hyperion does suck, and it will continue to as long as it holds out on making AOS that can run on x86 hardware. I'd run it on my MacBook Pro in a heartbeat.
Falcon
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A good friend of mine owns an Amiga from... well, it's an old one. It's hilarious how the GUI feels snappy and responsive and Windows feels slow as shit in comparison.
the Amiga OS (Score:2)
I've considered buying one of the machines in the past.
I had an Amiga 500 but turned it in for recycling. If I could have expanded/upgraded it I would have kept it longer.
I can imagine the the possible boost in Amiga popularity (not sales, but at least interest and usage) would be a lot higher if it could be ran on commodity x86-64 hardware and was freely available for development.
If Amiga OS ran on commodity x86 hardware I bet it would sell. I think it's weird, there used to be an expansion board for Ami
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While I'm not sure if it would still be worth migrating, due note that AmigaOS is still under active development on newer (PowerPC) hardware. Now, it's not exactly top of the line stuff - the latest AmigaOS boards are still only at 733mhz, but still, it's out there and kicking (barely anyways).
I've considered buying one of the machines in the past. They're around $750 IIRC. Would be a nice toy to play with. I wish the system was open sourced though. I can imagine the the possible boost in Amiga popularity (not sales, but at least interest and usage) would be a lot higher if it could be ran on commodity x86-64 hardware and was freely available for development.
I felt the same way. I figured Amiga should of accepted the linux kernel and made it's OS off of that.
But no, they wanted to follow suit of the companies before it and put out old hardware that was too expensive. Everyone and their grandma has a x86 cpu computer, but no, let's produce a new computer that is expensive for the small group of people we have and never worry about it actually being useful to anyone.
Apparently Amiga is cursed or something.