by Anonymous Coward writes:
on Tuesday August 28, 2012 @01:40PM (#41152111)
This is exactly why we need to do away with publicly funded education. This type of shit would never fly in the private sector. Remember this story the next time you get your tax bill.
This is exactly why we need to do away with publicly funded education. This type of shit would never fly in the private sector. Remember this story the next time you get your tax bill.
You fool. Universities offer video game production programs of study, they have for years.
We're talking about colleges here, not trade schools; museums, music programs, sports programs, social clubs, liberal arts courses, etc. are all part of the college experience. And besides, Michigan's sports programs make many millions of dollars profit for the school.
You took my statement as binary. 'Wasting millions of dollars on sports programs' wasnt meant ot imply that all sports programs are bad, merely that sports spending isnt nearly under the same kind of scrutiny as other equally valid activities. A HORRENDOUSLY disproportionate amount of money is spent on sports. More is spent on sports then is received back to students as services so your millions in profit argument is null. Sports profits prop up an ever increasing sports program, its not the net gain you ar
More is spent on sports then is received back to students as services so your millions in profit argument is null.
Without knowing what you mean by "received back" I can't respond. However, I went to a large university with a well known sports program (NOT Penn State, which was a very bad exception) and never felt that students were not served by the sports program or that it was "at the head of the table".
As far as "HORRENDOUSLY disproportionate", it's nowhere near what you seem to think. Michigan has a total budget of something over $5 Billion, their athletic program has a budget of around $120 Million (about 2.5%, p
In general, I think you are right about sports in higher education, but...
More is spent on sports then is received back to students as services
I'm not sure what you mean, but Michigan's athletic department pays for itself and makes a profit. Nothing is taken away from the rest of the university.
One challenge schools have is that sports programs are great publicity. Win and applications increase. As a simple example, who heard of Gonzaga before they started winning basketball games?
Michigan's sports programs make many millions of dollars profit for the school.
Michigan is a rare exception, if that's true. Most collegiate athletics come no where near to making a profit. Getting rid of all of them and putting their money back into the education budget would be a net win for education.
Any word on how this library is funded? I didn't see anything saying that the University is paying for it. And if so, I don't see anything about what percentage of the funding comes from public tax-paid funds. That's but one revenue source for public universities.
This is exactly why we need to do away with publicly funded education. This type of shit would never fly in the private sector. Remember this story the next time you get your tax bill.
Umich researcher here (full-time staff, part time comp sci student)... yes, I wish my tuition was a bit lower, especially since I'm a self-funded student. But we have one of the top CS programs in the country (and arguably the best outside of Silicon Valley). The only way you can build and maintain a program like that is to have resources like this available to the students to experiment with and learn from. It's an investment, not an expense.
By the way, don't worry too much about your tax bill. Our state l
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Your tax dollars at work. (Score:-1)
Re:Your tax dollars at work. (Score:5, Insightful)
This is exactly why we need to do away with publicly funded education. This type of shit would never fly in the private sector. Remember this story the next time you get your tax bill.
You fool. Universities offer video game production programs of study, they have for years.
Back to the Stygian Abyss with you!
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True, I didn't need college to study gender.
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Let me guess: you're one of those that's all in favor of turning our institutions of higher learning into trade schools?
--Jeremy
Re:Your tax dollars at work. (Score:5, Insightful)
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stop making sensible statements
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wasting millions a year on sports programs
We're talking about colleges here, not trade schools; museums, music programs, sports programs, social clubs, liberal arts courses, etc. are all part of the college experience. And besides, Michigan's sports programs make many millions of dollars profit for the school.
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More is spent on sports then is received back to students as services so your millions in profit argument is null.
Without knowing what you mean by "received back" I can't respond. However, I went to a large university with a well known sports program (NOT Penn State, which was a very bad exception) and never felt that students were not served by the sports program or that it was "at the head of the table".
As far as "HORRENDOUSLY disproportionate", it's nowhere near what you seem to think. Michigan has a total budget of something over $5 Billion, their athletic program has a budget of around $120 Million (about 2.5%, p
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In general, I think you are right about sports in higher education, but ...
More is spent on sports then is received back to students as services
I'm not sure what you mean, but Michigan's athletic department pays for itself and makes a profit. Nothing is taken away from the rest of the university.
One challenge schools have is that sports programs are great publicity. Win and applications increase. As a simple example, who heard of Gonzaga before they started winning basketball games?
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Michigan's sports programs make many millions of dollars profit for the school.
Michigan is a rare exception, if that's true. Most collegiate athletics come no where near to making a profit. Getting rid of all of them and putting their money back into the education budget would be a net win for education.
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Any word on how this library is funded? I didn't see anything saying that the University is paying for it. And if so, I don't see anything about what percentage of the funding comes from public tax-paid funds. That's but one revenue source for public universities.
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Oh. And also.. I just fed a troll. I feel dirty.
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http://vpcomm.umich.edu/budget/fundingsnapshot/index.html
UM's endowment is 16.9% state supported. It's more private than public.
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This is exactly why we need to do away with publicly funded education. This type of shit would never fly in the private sector. Remember this story the next time you get your tax bill.
Umich researcher here (full-time staff, part time comp sci student)... yes, I wish my tuition was a bit lower, especially since I'm a self-funded student. But we have one of the top CS programs in the country (and arguably the best outside of Silicon Valley). The only way you can build and maintain a program like that is to have resources like this available to the students to experiment with and learn from. It's an investment, not an expense.
By the way, don't worry too much about your tax bill. Our state l